The Holy Grail – Part 2

Some thoughts on the grail. com/user/ paultis326# p/u/31/nxpXd3JtS n8

Myth is important in the context of archetypes but you need to have your feet firmly on the ground. It is the stuff drugstore romance novels. Certainly there is no is definitive historical physical entity that could be named the “holy grail”.In days gone by the use of myth was generally accepted and used but they were aware of its use and did not read the myth as a reality but rather as allegory.

To my mind and according to Guenon [also known as ʿAbd al-Wāḥid Yaḥyá [al-Mālikī, al-Ḥāmidī ash-Shādhilī], a truly great esotericist, the Holy Grail is a symbol related to the symbol of the Heart and the idea of the center. Thus, questing for and finding the Grail is in ONE level, striving for and achieving ACTUAL (as opposed to virtual, as Guenon says very correctly, that if you go under an initiation ceremony you are not necessarily initiated for real) Initiation in the Sphere of Tipharet and becoming a complete man again (in opposition to a fallen man).

The actual problem with the grail seekers is that there must be several dozen people or organizations around the world right now who claim to have possession of the true and holy grail, the real cross that was used to crucify Jesus, the real tears of Mary, etc. etc. And goodness knows what is really in the chapel of the Church of Saint Mary of Zion in Axum, Ethiopia. The only thing we do know is that whatever is there has been there for quite some time (since at least 1270CE) and that the holders of that particular trinket are very zealous about protecting whatever it is that they have. But I’m not quite willing to allow that it is the artifact constructed by some guy named Moses since that personage is obviously a myth as well.

If certain groups of esotericists want to play the game of “you are only a real esotericist if you know what our definition of the holy grail is”, then there is no one to stop them, but it certainly is a silly game that is far beyond anything that might be remotely relevant to anyone who is seeking the mystical experience of god. It might be an interesting mind game to ponder, but I suspect that the creator of the universe does not spend a lot of time thinking up clever ways to keep the identity of the holy grail tightly held with within specific esoteric circles just to show how clever one can be if one has the power to create the universe.

There is a great book that was published some years back entitled “Historians’ Fallacies” by David H Fischer. The author discusses the logic of historical thought and one of his central ideas is that we tend to believe that anyone who is engaged in a historically significant act will know at the time that they are engaged in a historically significant act and will therefore be meticulous about writing an accurate and complete account of their activities so that posterity will know every possible detail. The truth is, in the annals of humanity there have been many crucial moments in history for which accurate information is not available because no one thought to get out their iPad and write a blog about what they were doing. The Templar’s of the past are dead. It seems obvious that they had some secrets – but one thing about secrets is that they are only secrets if you don’t tell someone else. Apparently the Templar’s understood that principle.

Life is a journey, you don’t get to start at the end.

Walking on Water…

To become cold from the coldness of the world is weakness, to become broken by the hardness of the world is feebleness, but to live in the world and yet to keep above it is like walking on the water.
Bowl of Saki, September 15, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

The spiritual path is easiest if there is not something pulling one from behind; and that force is the life in the world, one’s friends, surroundings, acquaintances, and one’s foes. Remain, therefore, in the world as a traveler making a station on his way. Do all the good you can to serve and succor humanity, but escape attachment. By this in no way will you prove to be loveless. On the contrary, it is attachment which divides love, and love raised above attachment is like a rain from above nourishing all the plants upon the earth.

~~~ “Sangita I, Nasihat”, by Hazrat Inayat Khan (unpublished)

What is the meaning of walking upon the water? Life is symbolized as water. There is one person who drowns in the water, there is another who swims in the water, but there is still another who walks upon it. The one who is so sensitive that, after one little pin prick he is unhappy throughout the day and night is the man of the first category. The one who takes and gives back and makes a game of life is the swimmer. He does not mind if he receives one knock, for he derives satisfaction from being able to give two knocks in return. But the one whom nothing can touch is in the world and yet is above the world. He is the one who walks upon the water; life is under his feet, both its joy an its sorrow.

Verily, independence and indifference are the two wings which enable the soul to fly.

from  http://wahiduddin. net/mv2/VIII/ VIII_2_10. htm

To become cold with the coldness of the world is weakness, and to become broken by the hardness of the world is feebleness, but to live in the world and yet to keep above the world is like walking on the water. There are two essential duties for the man of wisdom and love; that is to keep the love in our nature ever increasing and expanding, and to strengthen the will so that the heart may not be easily broken. Balance is ideal in life; one must be fine and yet strong, one must be loving and yet powerful.

from  http://wahiduddin. net/mv2/XIII/ XIII_14.htm

~~~ To become cold from the coldness of the world is weakness, to become broken by the hardness of the world is feebleness, but to live in the world and yet to keep above it is like walking on the water.

Health and healing in esotericism.

The Max Heindel (1865-1919)

Who he was:

Max Heindel, born Carl Louis von Grasshoff in Aarhus, Denmark on July 23, 1865, was a Danish-American Christian occultist, astrologer, and mystic. He died on January 6, 1919 at Oceanside, California, United States.

Very interesting research paper on the Rosicrucian Fellowship at this site:

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© Régis Dericquebourg, 2010.

A young man came to a sage one day and asked, “Sire, what must I do to become wise?” The sage vouchsafed no answer. The youth after repeating his question a number of times, with a like result, at last left him, to return the next day with the same question. Again no answer was given and the youth returned on the third day, still repeating his question, “Sire what must I do to become wise?”

Finally the sage turned and went down to a near-by river. He entered the water, bidding the youth follow him. Upon arriving at a sufficient depth the sage took the young man by the shoulders and held him under the water, despite his struggles to free himself. At last, however, he released him and when the youth had regained his breath the sage questioned him:

“Son, when you were under the water what did you most desire?”

The youth answered without hesitation, “Air, air! I wanted air!”

“Would you not rather have had riches, pleasure, power or love, my son? Did you not think of any of these?” queried the sage.

“No, sire! I wanted air and thought only of air,” came the instant response.

“Then,” said the sage, “To become wise you must desire wisdom with as great intensity as you just now desired air. You must struggle for it, to the exclusion of every other aim in life. It must be your one and only aspiration, by day and by night. If you seek wisdom with that fervor, my son, you will surely become wise.”

The Holy Grail



In Christian mythology, the Holy Grail was the dish, plate, cup or vessel that caught Jesus’ blood during his crucifixion. It was said to have the power to heal all wounds. A theme joined to the Christianised Arthurian mythos relates to the quest for the Holy Grail.

The things that happen on the invisible plane are incredibly more important then what occurs on the empirical plane.

You don’t acquire wisdom through study alone, just knowledge; only when knowledge and experience fertilizes each other does wisdom sprout. Only through living do you come near God.As an example: If someone studies the grail lore and as a result they are inspired to work towards the evolution of all humanity in some special form of service – perhaps something like Doctors Without Borders or by operating a homeless shelter – then the lessons learned from the studies are translated into a real-world expression of the spiritual lessons they acquire internally and all of the studies are worth what results.

Different people receive spiritual messages in different ways that are adapted to their own soul personality. For now the development on Earth are controlled through ideas, and the strength of these ideas is shown through how many years they live, fe. Sct. Paul had an extremely strong impact on the European history through Christianity, and the idea about Grail has not the same strength, but is still going strong, and that is only possible because of it’s inherent wisdom. The Grail idea are in the spirit of Sct. John.

You can say that it only comes from men, and that is right, but they are inspired from the spiritual world on the precise point in time where it could manifest the strongest, both at that time but also for a later times. As time goes ideas dies out, so new ideas pops up in the physical world, maybe building on older traditions, but giving new energy furthering the development of mankind.


The Hierophant

“Prima Materia”

Prima Materia is the formless base from which all matter is derived.

An anology, although an imperfect one, could conceivably be made to the difference between stem cells and actual organ or nerve cells. Just as a stem cell can develop into any of the various types of actual cells found in the human body, so Prima Materia can serve as the source for any a specific type of elemental matter.


I’d recommend that you read “The Red Lion” by Maria Szepes though, If you do read it, pay attention to the passage of what happens when the main character of the book actually succeeds in an alchemical experiment – it might prove enlightening.

“Szepes tells the story of the unhappy Hans Burgner, a miller’s son born in the 16th century. After the death of his weak father and of a likewise miserable but beloved teacher, he becomes afraid of the unavoidable death of all living things. Driven by a monomania fed by persistent rumors of an Elixir of Immortality, he becomes an apprentice of a mysterious physician and alchemist. However, instead of listening to the Alchemist’s compassionate counsel and warnings, Burgner is driven by feverish greed to murder him; in this way, he acquires Elixir while he is still spiritually unprepared, and is cursed thereby. This is the starting-point of a journey through the centuries: while Burgner can physically die, the Elixir enables him to retain the full memory of his previous lives as he repeatedly reincarnates into a variety of different circumstances. It also bestows upon him a profound spiritual sensitivity. Several times he attempts the Great Transmutation in order to deliver himself from his self-imposed curse. Hans Burgner is refined through his various incarnations. Against the backdrop of the last five centuries of European history, he undergoes dramatic personal development: beginning as a spiritually unawakened (and even infamous) character, he matures spiritually through the various challenges he is led to confront. He is first an initiate and Aspirant, eventually attaining the perfection of human personality which characterizes the Magus, or spiritual Adept.”